ZCZC MIATCDEP5 ALL TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM Tropical Storm Lidia Discussion Number 23 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP152023 300 PM MDT Sun Oct 08 2023 Lidia has become a little better organized this afternoon. Satellite images indicate that deep convection has been increasing and gradually becoming more symmetric. However, microwave data show that the low- and mid-level centers are still not well aligned, and there is a notable southwest tilt with height. The initial intensity is again held at 60 kt, near the low end of the satellite estimates, but if the trends continue, Lidia could become a hurricane tonight. The storm has now turned northward at 6 kt. A faster motion to the northeast and east-northeast is expected on Monday and Tuesday as a mid- to upper-level trough approaches the system. There has not been any significant change with the new models runs, with the GFS remaining the fastest solution and the ECMWF the slowest. The NHC track forecast has again been nudged northward this cycle toward the latest consensus aids. Based on the latest guidance, Lidia will likely make landfall in west-central Mexico late Tuesday. Lidia could strengthen a little tonight or early Monday, but more notable intensification seems likely late Monday and Tuesday in part due to a favorable trough interaction while Lidia moves over SSTs near 30 C. The models have trended higher this cycle and the NHC intensity forecast has followed suit, and is in line with the HCCA and IVCN models. Rapid weakening is expected after landfall and Lidia will likely dissipate over central Mexico in a few days. Based on the forecast and the track uncertainty, the government of Mexico has issued Hurricane and Tropical Storm Watches for portions of west-central Mexico. Key Messages: 1. Lidia is expected to strengthen before it reaches west-central Mexico, and hurricane and tropical storm conditions are possible in the watch areas beginning Tuesday. 2. Heavy rains from Lidia will likely produce flash and urban flooding, along with possible mudslides in areas of higher terrain across the southern portions of the state of Sinaloa, western portions of the state of Nayarit and coastal portions of Jalisco in southwest Mexico. 3. Swells from Lidia will cause dangerous surf and rip current conditions along the west coast of Mexico and the Baja California peninsula during the next few days. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 08/2100Z 17.6N 112.8W 60 KT 70 MPH 12H 09/0600Z 18.3N 112.4W 65 KT 75 MPH 24H 09/1800Z 18.9N 111.6W 65 KT 75 MPH 36H 10/0600Z 19.7N 109.8W 75 KT 85 MPH 48H 10/1800Z 20.9N 107.4W 80 KT 90 MPH 60H 11/0600Z 22.6N 104.7W 50 KT 60 MPH...INLAND 72H 11/1800Z 24.5N 102.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW 96H 12/1800Z...DISSIPATED $$ Forecaster Cangialosi NNNN