ZCZC MIATCDEP2 ALL TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM Potential Tropical Cyclone Seventeen-E Discussion Number 3 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP172019 1000 AM CDT Wed Oct 16 2019 Satellite imagery this morning shows that the disturbance continues to lack a well-defined center, and there is evidence of multiple low-level cloud swirls near the mean center. One swirl came onshore a few hours ago just southwest of Salina Cruz, Mexico, accompanied by wind gusts to tropical-storm force. Another swirl is currently near or just offshore of Puerto Angel close to a strong cluster of convection. The mean position between these swirls used in this advisory is inland over the Mexican state of Oaxaca. The initial intensity remains 30 kt based partly on surface observations and partly from continuity with the previous advisory. The chances that the system will become a tropical cyclone are diminishing. However, advisories will continue and the tropical storm watch will remain in effect until it becomes clear that the center will not try to re-form offshore. If this does not happen, the disturbance should dissipate over the mountains of central Mexico between 12-24 h. The initial motion is a somewhat uncertain 315/12. A general northwestward motion should continue until the system dissipates. The primary threat from this disturbance remains heavy rainfall and the potential for flash flooding and mudslides in southern Mexico during the next day or two. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 16/1500Z 16.2N 96.2W 30 KT 35 MPH...POTENTIAL TROP CYCLONE 12H 17/0000Z 17.3N 97.6W 20 KT 25 MPH...INLAND 24H 17/1200Z...DISSIPATED $$ Forecaster Beven NNNN