ZCZC HFOTCDCP5 ALL TTAA00 PHFO DDHHMM TROPICAL STORM MADELINE DISCUSSION NUMBER 8 NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP142016 500 AM HST SUN AUG 28 2016 The cloud pattern around Madeline has not improved over the past 12 hours and the amount of cold overcast has changed little. An ASCAT pass at 28/0706 UTC showed winds less than 40 kt. I have set the initial intensity at 45 kt. I do not believe this represents a weakening of the cyclone. It seems more likely that the cyclone has been weaker than analyzed over the past 24 hours. I have adjusted the intensity of the past positions down to 45 kt. The cyclone continues to track along the southwest edge of the subtropical ridge. A narrow ridge aloft separates Madeline from a trough to the northwest. The global models are in good agreement showing the trough lifting out to the northeast in 3 days as a ridge builds along 160W. As that ridge builds, Madeline should curve toward the west, then slightly south of west. The current track is very slightly slower and farther south than the previous forecast. Madeline is expected to be moving through an area with low vertical wind shear over the next 2 days and sea surface temperatures, SST, will remain warm. Conditions should be favorable for some intensification during that period. After that, shear is expected to increase and the environment is expected to become drier, so weakening is expected. This forecast is very similar to the previous one, but the intensity has been kept a bit lower, based on the current poor organization on satellite imagery. The confidence in the track forecast decreases by day 3, so it is too early to determine what impacts Madeline could have on the Hawaiian Islands late in the forecast period. It is important to remind users that the average day 4 and 5 track forecast errors for central Pacific tropical cyclones are around 185 and 250 miles, respectively. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 28/1500Z 16.3N 140.8W 45 KT 50 MPH 12H 29/0000Z 17.2N 141.7W 50 KT 60 MPH 24H 29/1200Z 18.3N 143.3W 55 KT 65 MPH 36H 30/0000Z 18.9N 145.0W 60 KT 70 MPH 48H 30/1200Z 19.4N 146.8W 60 KT 70 MPH 72H 31/1200Z 19.4N 150.8W 50 KT 60 MPH 96H 01/1200Z 19.0N 155.0W 40 KT 45 MPH 120H 02/1200Z 18.0N 159.0W 35 KT 40 MPH $$ Forecaster Donaldson NNNN