ZCZC HFOTCDCP5 ALL TTAA00 PHFO DDHHMM TROPICAL STORM MADELINE DISCUSSION NUMBER 27 NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP142016 500 PM HST THU SEP 01 2016 Since the last advisory package, the satellite presentation of Madeline has deteriorated. Remaining deep convection is within a small cluster over the circulation center. Subjective Dvorak fixes were 3.0/45 kt from PHFO and 2.5/35 kt from SAB. The CIMSS ADT showed 33 kt. There is also the possibility that there may no longer be a distinct low level center based on the 2042 UTC ASCAT pass showing only a trough in the wind field with 30 kt winds to the north. Analysis of the ASCAT ambiguity and NRCS data also suggest the possibility of a trough. If there is still a low level center, it is quite small. This advisory is based on the conservative assumption that a low level center still exists and has an initial intensity of 35 kt. Despite the warm sea surface temperatures, the moderate to strong vertical shear and the relatively dry mid-level air to west and north is expected to be too much to overcome. The GFS, ECMWF, and HWRF project continued weakening toward dissipation while the LGEM and DSHP maintain Madeline as a tropical depression through the forecast period. The forecast for this advisory is more in line with the global models and HWRF, calling for Madeline to become a tropical depression tonight then a post-tropical remnant low in about 2 days if not sooner. The presumed center of Madeline is moving toward the west, 270 degrees, at 11 kt. The cyclone will continue to be steered by a low- to mid-level ridge to the north and northwest of the Hawaiian Islands. Most of the main dynamical aids remain tightly clustered around a westward track over the next 2 to 3 days, with the GFDL stubbornly sticking out as a northern outlier. The current forecast keeps a weakening Madeline on a general westward path in line with the main dynamical aids cluster and the previous forecast. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 02/0300Z 16.6N 159.0W 35 KT 40 MPH 12H 02/1200Z 16.5N 160.9W 30 KT 35 MPH 24H 03/0000Z 16.4N 163.5W 25 KT 30 MPH 36H 03/1200Z 16.5N 165.8W 25 KT 30 MPH 48H 04/0000Z 16.7N 168.1W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW 72H 05/0000Z...DISSIPATED $$ Forecaster Kodama NNNN