ZCZC MIATCDEP2 ALL TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM Potential Tropical Cyclone Seventeen-E Discussion Number 2 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP172019 400 AM CDT Wed Oct 16 2019 The disturbance does not appear to a have a well-defined center, but if there is one trying to form, it has to be a little farther to the northwest near the convection. In fact, fixes from both TAFB and SAB suggest that a possible center is within the small area of convection. Partial ASCAT data indicate that the disturbance remains poorly organized at this time. With the disturbance approaching land, the chances of it becoming a tropical storm or even a depression before landfall are diminishing. However, the system could reach 35 kt within the next 6 hours or so. Once inland, dissipation over the high terrain of southern Mexico is anticipated. Since there is not a well-defined center, the initial motion is highly uncertain. The best estimate is toward the northwest or 315 degrees at 11 kt. The flow around a mid-level ridge over the extreme southeastern Gulf of Mexico will continue to steer the disturbance toward the northwest with no change is forward speed. This motion is forecast by most of the global models which bring the disturbance inland quite soon. The primary threat from this disturbance is heavy rainfall and the potential for flash flooding and mudslides in southern Mexico during the next day or two. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 16/0900Z 15.4N 94.9W 30 KT 35 MPH...POTENTIAL TROP CYCLONE 12H 16/1800Z 16.5N 96.2W 25 KT 30 MPH...INLAND 24H 17/0600Z 18.0N 98.0W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/INLAND 36H 17/1800Z...DISSIPATED $$ Forecaster Avila NNNN